Hello , I'm just going to say - never give up. I know we are all different and respond differently to things. Just keep working with your doctors. My father is almost 90. He sees a kidney doctor every 3 months. His numbers are very low and they have been telling him for 5 years that he will be on dialysis soon. On his last visit, the nephrologist told him that whatever he is doing keep on doing it. He has a hard time passing urine, but he got prostate cancer at age 72. This doctor just adjusts his medications for that. He started complaining of back pain also. I am at the beginning stage of CKD, so I'm not going to say I know how you feel. But remember, you are not alone. Warmly, Diane (Team Member)